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the prime minister agree that in the past when the house of commons has been faced with big issues that they have a tendency for knee-jerk overreactions? would you agree that newspapers are a force for good in this country and we need criminality weeded out of the media but not impose on a free speech or prepress? >> my hon. friend is entirely right. we need to make sure as the house of commons, as the government, in the debate that we have to show an element of restraint in regulation of the media because there's always a danger that the pendulum will swing too far the other way and we threaten investigative journalism, a strong and independent media that can hold government to account. when we consider some of the scandals that have been uncovered, it is often the press that does this. it is absolutely vital to maintain their british tradition. >> rebekah brooks described the prime minister as a friend and neighbor. we heard about christmas walks and conversations. >> order. this is the moment in parliament where we have a free speech. this question will be heard. that is the end
. >> so things like use of petty cash -- that could be quite big sums of money or small -- at the moment you just record that the journalist gave it to somebody. >> yes, and i don't have direct knowledge of all of those arrangements. >> i was going to ask if payments could have been made to family members of those alleged to have been hacked and similar, but is it possible that other forms of remuneration can be used in your company apart from cash and bank transfers? i am talking of things like travelers checks, vouchers and things that can be redeemed for cash. >> i don't have knowledge of that. >> just looking at some of your corporate governance -- page 2 and page 4 of your own code -- it mentions directors, employees and officers of news corporation acting to the principles set forth, including consultants, agents, suppliers and business partners adhering to the standards. it says, "we may never ask a third party to perform any act that would violate these standards." can you tell me a little bit more, especially on the financial side, how you, as an organization, try and make that
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